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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS);faqs.119
PLAY OF THE BALL:
44. Are double hits ever legal?
Yes, the first contact of the ball by the receiving team can be a double,
but must consist of a single continuous attempt to play the ball [8-5]
[8-3c], say, shoulder - head or wrist - upper arm, but always with NO
finger contact/action. Remember, the rules clearly state that the
successive contact rule applies to the first team hit regardless of
whether it is in response to a spike, block, serve, dink, dump, free
ball, etc.
45. What about playing the ball with 2 separated fists?
According to [8-5] [8-3c] on the first attempt to play a ball this is ok.
This is considered "multiple contacts during a single attempt to play
the ball." As long as there is NO FINGER action and it's one motion,
it's ok. The key here is that it is "one attempt" to play the ball - if
you raised your fists at the same time it's legal.
46. What's considered a lift and what's a legal pass?
Here's a commentary that ALL players and refs should know:
[8-1c] Reception of the Ball- Contact with the ball must be brief.
When the ball has been hit hard, or during setting action, it
sometimes stays very briefly in contact with the hands of the player
handling the ball. In such cases, contact that results from playing
the ball from below, or a high reception whenre the ball is
received from high in the air, should not necessarily be penalized.
The following actions of playing the ball should NOT(!!) be counted
as faults (Note: the "not" is bold faced caps in the book!):
a) When the sound is different to that made by a fingertip hit, but
the hit is still played simultaneously with both hands and the
ball is not held.
b) When the ball is played with two closed fists on a 2nd or 3rd
hit and the contact with the ball is simultaneous.
c) When the ball contacts an open hand and rolls off the hand
backward without being held.
d) When the ball is played correctly and the player's hands move
backwards, either during or after the hit.
e) When a poorly hit ball is caused to rotate (such as a defective
spike where the ball is not hit squarely and is caused to spin,
or a set ball that is caused to rotate due to improper but
simultaneous contact)
47. Can you pass/dig a spike overhead with hand/finger action?
Maybe; [O8-5b] "When defensing a hard spiked ball, the ball can be
held overhand with the fingers briefly as a reflex action, but not
as a planned action." No mention is made of this in the indoor rules.
48. Can a serve ever be passed overhead?
Maybe; [8-2c] "receiving a served ball with an overhead pass using
open hands is not necessarily a fault." You might be able to get
away with it on a high, soft underhand serve, but expect to hear a
"9" on the Groan Index. Be safe, with this kinda serve you've got
plenty of time to get in position and give your setter a perfect pass.
49. Are open one-hand dinks legal?
Funny, dinks are not mentioned in the Indoor rules, but are in
Outdoor. Open hand dinks are legal Indoors, but NOT Outdoors where
[O8-7] says an "open hand placement" is illegal; it's got to be a
"roll shot," "cobra," or "camel toe."
50. What's a 'power' dink and is it legal?
Controversy here... First, a 'power' dink is one that looks like
a throw; the hand contacts the ball high and with a stiff wrist
is directed downwards into the opponents' court with considerable
velocity. Your hand might remain in contact with the ball for
some time, like for 30-45 degrees of arc. When you see these, it's
often the start of an argument on both sides. It usually happens
when the ball's set too close to the net and the hitter's trying
to avoid getting stuffed. To some folks it's a throw, others, a
legal shot. Higher level refs call it ok, lower level will call
it a fault.
51. Can I contact the ball over the opponent's court?
Only when blocking their attempt to direct the ball into your
court [8-11] [8-14-f]. You cannot attack a ball completely on
your opponents side of the net.
52. Can I reach over the net to block the ball?
Sho nuff! [8-11] [8-14] Some older folks might remember in days of
old when your hands could not legally break the plane of the net.
53. Can you reach across the plane of the net after the 3rd hit?
Yep. If the "over" was the result of a follow-through of a spike
of a ball on the plane or on the attacker's side - perfectly
fine [8-11]. Otherwise, see the 2 questions just above.
54. What if I'm LEGALLY under the net, my knees are across the plane of the
net, and my leg is then hit by the ball on the opponents' side of the net
before the ball breaks the plane of the net?
Rule [9-1c] says "The opponents are not allowed to intentionally touch
the ball under the net before the ball passes fully beyond the vertical
plane of the net. However, if the ball inadvertently contacts an opponent
beyond the plane under the net, the ball becomes dead and is not
considered to be a fault by the opponents."
Unfortunately, this paragraph does not say what to do in case the contact
is not intentional and is not beyond the plane of the net. Probably best
to use the same rationale as in play above the net, i.e. unintentional
contact under the net is not a fault by the defenders if the ball clearly
would not clear the net and it is the third hit or none of the attacking
team members could have made a play on the ball. If any of these points
are in doubt, I would rule against the defenders (Geoffrey Clemm).
BACKROW ATTACKS:
55. Can a backrow player legally attack the ball?
Yes, as long as when the player attacks the ball, they are behind
(not on) the 3m attack line or, if in mid-air, they jumped from
behind the attack line. They may also 'attack' the ball if it's
not COMPLETELY above the top of the net. [8-12]
56. What if I jump from outside the court in front of the attack line
extension?
Tweet! See [8-12](above) plus [1-4] says that the attack line
extends indefinitely.
57. I'm a 6'7" backrow player, standing in the attack area, when the
ball comes my way. I unloaded on it without jumping. Why did the
ref whistle a fault?
If you are in the attack area and a back row player, the ball must
still be under the net height to be sent over, no matter how high
you can reach standing.
MISCELLANEOUS:
58. Can you ever cross the center line?
Your foot may cross the center line if part of your foot remains on
or above the line [9-6]. If any other part of your body, say your
pinkie, touches the opponents' court, it's a fault. As an aside:
BE CAREFUL! ENCROACHMENT IS NOT TO BE TOLERATED! Even in practice
or rec play. Most serious ankle-foot injuries are the result of
encroachment - let everyone know it's a Serious Fault!
59. The ball hit a basketball backstop near our court, do we replay
the point?
Usually, yes. If the ball hits a low hanging obstruction under 7
meters and within 2m of the court, the ball's normally called dead
and replayed. This falls in the category of local rules and should
be explained by the ref prior to play.
60. What if the ball hits the ceiling?
A ceiling, particularly over 7 meters is out and a point or side
out awarded. If it hits part of the ceiling between 15-23' (4.5-7m)
it's still in play. Under 15'? Jeez, serves you right for playing
in the Troglodyte Open.
61. What is a 'free' ball and why do players yell 'free'?
A free ball is generally any ball which isn't spiked/hard hit.
When a team sees that their opponents are not going to blast the
ball over, someone (setter, or in our play, anyone first sensing
that it won't be a hit - sometimes the setter's view might be
blocked) yells "free" meaning, "get your slow hitter butts back
and pass something" [thanks to Darcie Hammer].
62. What are "angle" and "line" and why do I hear players yelling
these words?
The non-hitter who has a view of the blocker(s) yells to the hitter
what areas are not blocked or covered to direct the spike into
these areas. A "line" hit is one down the sideline nearest the
hitter, while an "angle" is a crosscourt hit from a ball set to
the side. Obviously these don't work for a middle set.
63. In a beach game, I saw the player at the net hold up 2 fingers
behind their back when their partner was serving. Why?
The net player/blocker was telling their partner the direction they
were going to block; 1 = line, 2 = angle, fist = no block.
64. What are the position numbers on the court?
There's more than one system, but the most common has the setter
(right back) designated #1 with 2-6 numbered clockwise from #1.
65. Someone asked me if I played a 6-2 or 5-1, but I'm 5'8. What were
they talking about?
They were asking about standard player/offensive sets. In these 2
common offenses, the first number is the number of designated
hitters, the second, the number of setters. In a 6-2, while 2 players
share setting duties (coming from the back row), all 6 players are
hitters as well. In a 5-1, there are 5 hitters and one setter (back
or front row). Most higher level teams go with a 5-1 to get
consistent setting. With lower level teams you might hear a 4-2 where
two setters always set and the setter is always in the front row.
A bit farther and you'll hear "center set" where the person rotating
into the middle of the front row sets (giving up the middle hit).
66. I've heard sets called by different numbers. What are they?
There are many setting systems with varying number schemes. Check
with your local folks. The simplest system uses numbers to refer to
the height of the set above the net. The setter calls (holds up hand
behind back) the play. They are:
1 - a short set (1m high) directly into the middle hitters hand
3 - a medium high set to middle or outside hitters
5 - a high ball, to the outside
10 - a high set to a backrow hitter (closed fist)
67. How do you build a sand court?
Check with John Thomas (jthomas@almaden.ibm.com) for help!
Basically look for washed sand with round grains - irregular is
too rough. You'll need a minimum of 12", preferably 18". This is
A Lot Of Sand!
68. What is rally scoring?
A perverted system of scoring designed to destroy normal play
strategies, etc. A point is scored with each serve; whoever wins
the volley gets a point. Normally used in a final game to speed
up play to get the show over quickly.
69. What are the rules differences between USVBA and high schools?
There are too many to list here. If you're interested, check with
Van Vo (van@wucs1.wustl.edu); he's compiled a list of 30+
differences courtesy Sue Lemaire, NAGWS VB Rules Interpreter.
70. I was playing vb at a picnic and people crashed the net, lifted
the ball, ran over on our side, and generally ignored the rules.
How do I let them know there are rules without them saying "we're
only playing for fun" and me sounding like an asshole?
Good Luck! The best way to do this is to let it be known from the
start that 1) the net is "fragile", please don't crash it, 2) that
crossing onto your opponents court is how ankles get broken. As
for throws, doubles, etc., let'em go. If you have a problem with
this kind of play - sit back in that lawn chair and have another
beer. You might try a little teaching, but lets face it, folks are
there to party, not learn.
INJURIES
First, a couple of caveats about what this section is and most importantly, is
not. It is not a do-it-yourself guide to treatment of serious and "career-
threatening" injuries. We are not physicians (of any kind) trained in physical,
orthopedic, or sports medicine. We would never attempt to either diagnose or
recommend treatment of any injury suffered whilst playing volleyball. Mistakes
of diagnosis or treatment have the potential of turning even minor injuries
into severe ones requiring long-term rehabilitation. If you are injured (how
seriously depends on you), get thee to specialist in sports-related injuries -
as soon as possible.
Any discussion of injuries starts with prevention. The two words that
volleyball players need to swear an oath to are "stretch" and "strengthen."
Now say it again:
"stretch" and "strengthen"
Stretching cannot be overemphasized, particularly for an over-40 player like
myself. Stretching of muscles and tendons is not overly complex, but takes
pre-game time - like get there 30 minutes before gametime. Particularly
important are the muscles of the lower back, legs (like hamstrings), and
shoulders. Make a commitment to devote a fraction of the time you spend on
the court in S & S - I can't say how much, but try 20-30 minutes before a
2-hour practice, at least 20 minutes before a 3-game match, and a couple of
hours per week outside of play.
Injuries in volleyball tend to involve joints and muscles/tendons/ligaments.
The litany tends to go 1) shoulder strains/rotator cuff injury, 2) ankle
sprains and breaks, 3) knee strains, and 4) low back pain.
SHOULDER:
I've had recurring rotator cuff strains over the past 4 years - most of
which could be prevented by 1) stretching and 2) strengthening (remember?).
These injuries run the gamut from strains and tears to acromial impinge-
ment to dislocation. If you suffer a serious injury, check with an expert
- and maybe several at that! Todd Biske (biske@cs.uiuc.edu) had a detailed
review of these injuries awhile back and Ill include them here. First,
symptoms (as if we have to tell you):
* A dull, numbing pain in the shoulder which extended down to the elbow
at the worse times, which would last for as long as 2-3 days at a time.
* Nice cracking and popping sounds when rotating the shoulder fully.
* Easily aggravated by any throwing motion, or harsh wrist snaps which put
stress on the shoulder.
* Sometimes not able to raise arm past 90 degrees.
Treatment (remember, check with an expert first):
You may require medication to reduce the immediate inflammation and
pain. My sports med doc gave me an injection of cortisone and put me
on ibuprofen as an anti-inflammatory agent. However, a joint can only
take so much cortisone, its used only with very serious injuries.
Rest. Don't use the shoulder for at least eight weeks or so.
See a physical trainer and have them develop a rehab program for you.
Rehab programs usually include range of motion and stretching and
a weight program to strengthen the joint.
The important thing to remember is to start SMALL. It may not feel like
a lot of weight, but with a tender rotator cuff, you want to take it
slowly. Also, when you get back to the point where you can play again
have someone check your form. Again, stretching your shoulder prior to
playing is Necessary. Get to the gym 30 minutes early for stretching.
You may have suffered a more serious injury requiring surgery, either
arthroscopically or other. If surgery is recommended, make sure its
necessary by getting a second opinion.
Jim Kiraly (jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov) writes that his shoulder injury
"was even scheduled for a major surgery which would have immobilized my
arm for 6 weeks, required a year of rehab, and according to the
orthopaedic surgeon (who I thought was pretty good) could expect no more
than 80% function afterwards." He found a GOOD orthopaedic surgeon who
knew what the problem was (acromial impingement) and fixed it
arthoscopically with a full recovery in about 6 weeks.
ANKLE INJURIES
Ankle and knee injuries are frequently the result of an intimate pas de
deux or menage a trois at the net. Eschew them. Some folks are apparently
doomed by genetics to have weak, injury-prone ankles - or once you have an
ankle injury, you seem prone for more. High-mid-low; it doesn't really
seem to matter. Folks will swear by or at all three - whatever seems to
work for you is fine. Prevention is primarily a matter of avoiding contact,
particularly under the net. The proposed rule changes to allow a player to
cross the center line will guarantee an epidemic of sprained and broken
ankles. Everyone should ignore this rule change - and refs, even if they
can't fault encroachment, should point out the danger of so doing before
the match and whenever they see it.
Many folks swear by Aircasts (TM), lightweight, inflatable plastic and
velcro supports you wear in your shoe. Although designed to provide support
while recovering from an injury and to prevent subsequent ones, some folks
have taken to wearing them as preventive. Regardless, check with an expert
and get ones that fit (and shoes to go with them) if you wear them.
There is a feeling amongst players who have suffered ankle injuries that a
clean break heals better and is less apt to be a recurrent problem than a
serious sprain. Whatever, if you have broken an ankle, follow your rehab
program and you'll be back playing in no time.
KNEE
Knee injuries are, like ankle, frequently the result of contact, but may
result from running, turning, and jumping. I've seen players with such
extensive knee braces that they look like a true bionic player. The weight
definitely affects one's vertical for jumping and speed for setting.
However, don't think you'll be relegated to the back row after a serious
knee injury.
These injuries result in strains, sprain, and tears in the knee joint, one
of the body's more complex joints and one with great stresses. These are
all potentially career-threatening and should be treated with respect.
Treatment varies from rest to bracing to surgery, both arthroscopic and
open. Again, if surgery is recommended, get a second opinion.
LOW BACK PAIN
I am writing this hunched over the keyboard with terrible pain (even
with prescription drugs) an 8 pm vb league and no way to play - it's
hard to even stand upright with a low back muscle spasm. My low back
problems are always aggravated by diving forward to cover short balls and
dinks.
Low back problems should always be evaluated by a specialist - believe me,
the pain alone says "Serious!" Back problems include muscle spasms (my
specialty), herniated disks, pinched nerves, and other assorted maladies.
Diagnosis usually requires a thorough history/physical exam and radiologic
studies (xrays, CT scans, MRI). Unfortunately, many of these injuries are
prone to recur, particularly muscle spasms - and they can be excruiatingly
painful (I was on hands and knees for 3 days).
Prevention again consists of stretching and strengthening. My problem has
always been lack of flexibility and a tendency to ignore the need to
stretch. Finally, muscle spasms may be the result of off-court stress in
your life. Yea, I know, volleyball is supposed to reduce stress!
Treatment for back injuries varies widely according to the injury. These
need professional attention - and if surgery is recommended, always, always,
get a second opinion by another sports med expert. Back injuries will always
significantly affect your playing time and schedule. If you ignore them or
try to come back too soon, you may jeopardize your chances of ever playing
again. Keep that in mind and don't push it.
The End - r.s.v. faq
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Waffle Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
========================================
INTRODUCTION
The intent of this document is to assemble, in one place, a general list
of Waffle-related Frequently Asked Questions. It is not intended to be
all-inclusive, since no one document can replace the 400KB or so of
documents that come with Waffle.
Rather than repeat material maintained in other newsgroups, other periodic
postings, or the \waffle\docs directory, this document will attempt to
point the reader to the right place for information that is either too
complicated to describe here, or is kept up to date elsewhere.
This document includes information for the current official release of
Waffle (v1.65, released 8/1/92).
In many cases, the answer to a FAQ might be something along the lines of
"you can't at v1.64 or before". Version-specific answers are indicated
whenever possible.
At this time, this document primarily addresses the DOS version of Waffle,
but feel free to submit unix-Waffle FAQs to the address above for inclusion
in the next posting.
Comments, additions, and corrections are welcomed (via e-mail please).
GENERAL INFORMATION
1. What is Waffle ?
Waffle is a USENET-compatible BBS system which supports
UUCP mail, UUCP, and USENET news. In addition, there is
a built-in editor, file upload/download, and the ability to hook in
external programs and gateway to (or from) other packages.
DOS Waffle supports (but does not require) external Fossil drivers
to allow use of high speed modems and allows an MSDOS PC to be a
fully RFC compliant USENET node. It also provides the UUCP-based
transport mechanism that generally comes with unix systems.
Unix Waffle provides just the BBS functionality and requires the
'traditional' unix communications, mail, and USENET-news software
for those functions.
See \waffle\docs\readme, unix.doc, and dos.doc for more details.
2. What operating systems does it run on ?
IBM-PCs and compatibles running MSDOS (which includes Microsoft
Windows, DR-DOS, and OS/2 if you have enough memory).
Many variants of unix. In particular, configuration options are
already in place for: NeXT, BSD 4.2/4.3, A/UX, SUN, LINUX, IRIS,
Ultrix, XENIX, Interactive 386/ix, HP/UX, Altos 2000. If you
have one of these environments, Waffle should just drop in with
no problems.
LICENSING
1. Is Waffle free ?
In a word, no.
The DOS version is shareware that is made available in
binary form at many locations so you can 'try before you buy'.
The UNIX version is available as source code only, and there
is no provision to 'try before you buy'. However, the look
and feel of the two versions are almost identical, so the DOS
version serves as a 'try' version.
2. OK, so what's it cost ?
For non-commercial sites, DOS Waffle costs $30.00 (US) for
binaries and $120.00 (US) for sources. The unix sources are
$120.00 (US) for non-commercial sites.
Contact the author, Tom Dell <dell@vox.darkside.com> for info
about purchasing Waffle, or see \waffle\docs\register.doc from
the DOS distribution for more details.
3. What if I bought DOS binaries and I now want sources ?
You pay the difference between the binary fee you've paid
already and the cost of the source code.
4. Once I'm registered, can I upgrade to new versions for free ?
Yes, although you might have to download a copy rather than
expecting a floppy to come in the mail.
AVAILABILITY
1. How can I get Waffle by ftp ?
Anonymous ftp:
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Waffle (DOS version) is available via anonymous ftp from
SIMTEL20 and its various mirror sites as follows:
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil 26.2.0.74
pd1:<msdos.waffle>waf165.zip
wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4
/pub/mirrors/msdos/waffle/waf165.zip
There are other SIMTEL20 mirror sites. See the periodic postings
in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d and news.answers for more details.
2. What if I'm not on the Internet ?
From the author's BBS:
---------------------
The Dark Side of the Moon BBS 1.408.245.SPAM (7726) (Tom Dell)
From SIMTEL20 and mirrors via mail-based-archive-servers:
---------------------------------------------------------
A number of sites run archive-servers to give non-Internet folks
the ability to do the equivalent of ftp-by-mail.
If you do not have FTP access to SIMTEL20, files may be ordered by
mail from:
Internet-style: listserv@vm1.nodak.edu
listserv@vm.ecs.rpi.edu
UUCP-style: uunet!vm1.nodak.edu!listserv
uunet!vm.ecs.rpi.edu!listserv
Send this command to the server to get its help file:
GET PDGET HELP
NOTE: remember that if you request items from an archive-server
via mail, that your traffic goes through every system between the
server and you, and adds such load on each system. Be courteous.
There are a number of periodic postings in news.answers that tell
how to get software via mail in far more detail than what is
provided here.
From other BBS sites:
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Via mail:
questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Pershing):
mail with text 'help' to username 'MailServer'
Available for downloading:
The Heart of Gold BBS
+1 814 238-9633
300-2400/v.32/v.32bis/ZyXEL 16.8k, free download on first call
look in /file/ibm/bbs/waf*.zip
SUPPORT MECHANISM
1. How can I get questions answered ?
First, read everything in \waffle\docs.
Then read them about 3 more times.
Then read them again.
Running a USENET site is not difficult, but it's also not trivial.
Running Waffle is not always immediately self-evident either.
The docs will help... a lot. Yes, there is a lot to read, and yes,
it seems ponderous, but most of your questions are answered either
in the docs or in this FAQ.
Use of a version of 'grep' to scan all the documents for
keywords is highly recommended, or looking in 1.65's new
\waffle\docs\index.
2. Is there a USENET newsgroup for Waffle ?
Yes, comp.bbs.waffle (also known as 'c.b.w.')
Don't be shy, there's a lot of expertise in c.b.w.
That's what it's there for.
3. Can I get in touch with the author of Waffle ?
Yes.
Tom Dell reads comp.bbs.waffle, though he doesn't generally
post too often since he's busy 'doing good' for us all :-)
He's also reachable via e-mail at dell@vox.darkside.com.
Be aware that Tom gets *LOTS* of mail, so replies might
take a while.
In general, normal questions to comp.bbs.waffle will get quite
a few responses in a very timely manner. There probably aren't
too many questions you can't get answered in c.b.w.
4. How many Waffle sites are there currently?
It's hard to say since there are sites that are unregistered,
not in the UUCP maps, and/or are mail-only and do not exchange news.
There are at least 300 sites running the DOS version who have
posted USENET news to 'the net' in the last six months or so.
MAIL
1. How can I route domainized mail for my uucp neighbor directly to them ?
Domain-based mail goes to your smarthost (as defined in static)
unless you override that route with an entry in paths.
If you mail to 'friend@hostname.domain' and you're directly
connected to them via UUCP, you can force a direct delivery
with a paths entry of :